Lance Armstrong's NYC Marathon Performances and Expectations for Boston - Part 2

As I mentioned in my last post, Lance Armstrong is planning to run the Boston Marathon in April to raise money for his foundation. In that post I looked at Lance's performances in the 2006 and 2007 New York City Marathons. Lance made a very substantial improvement to his marathon time in 2007. He took almost 13 minutes off his time to finish with a time of 2:46:43.

How Many Sub-3 Runners Can Take 13 Minutes Off Their Times?

I thought it would be interesting to see how other runners who finished in under 3 hours in the 2006 New York City Marathon did in 2007. Do most improve their times? And by how much do they improve? As I mentioned in my previous post, the temperatures at both marathons were close. So this should be a good comparison. The main factor influencing times should be the runners themselves.

I gathered the finish times of the sub-3 runners from both years using the data at at Marathonguide.com. I then developed a program to look for repeat runners. The program recorded the repeat runners, computed the differences in times, and categorized the times into groups. The results are shown in the following table.

Repeat Sub-3 Runners in the 2006 and 2007 New York City Marathons

Minutes Slower	# of Runners	% of Runners	Lance's Improvement
20 to 15	2	1%	.
15 to 10	12	8%	.
10 to 5	24	16%	.
5 to 0	50	33%	.
Minutes Faster	# of Runners	% of Runners	Lance's Improvement
0 to 5	44	29%	.
5 to 10	13	8%	.
10 to 15	6	4%	12:53 improvement
15 to 20	1	1%	.
20 to 25	1	1%	.
Total	153	100%	.

As you can see from the table, my program identified 153 sub-3 repeat runners in the 2007 and 2006 NYC marathons. Out of these 153 runners, about 58% finished with slower times in 2007. Only about 6% of the runners finished in 2007 with times that were faster by 10 minutes or more. As you can see, Lance's time reduction of almost 13 minutes is part of this 6%. Below is the list of runners in this group:

Minutes Faster : Name             :  2006 Time    2007 Time
in 07 vs 06
10:30         : PIOTR KARASIEWICZ :    2:48:53,     2:38:23
12:28         : OSCAR HERNANDEZ   :    2:56:56,     2:44:28
12:48         : ALFONSO POLANIA   :    2:59:28,     2:46:40
12:53         : LANCE ARMSTRONG   :    2:59:36,     2:46:43
14:21         : SAM HILL          :    2:43:49,     2:29:28
14:28         : MARCELLO CRETTI   :    2:55:37,     2:41:09
15:16         : ERIC BOUCHER      :    2:57:02,     2:41:46
20:33         : STUART BURTON     :    2:52:08,     2:31:35

Lance had the fifth best time improvement for runners who ran under 3 hours in 2006. As mentioned in this Marathon You Can Do It blog post, it took Lance 4 or 5 months to recover from shin problems after the 2006 marathon. Lance said he was better prepared in 2007 so that must have been a major factor.

With Lance's physical capabilities I would expect him to continue to improve as long as he is able to train and stay healthy. As this Running Advice and News blog post describes, a prediction for his Boston race isn't easy. But I'll guess he'll finish in under 2:40.

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Lance Armstrong's New York City Marathon Performances and Expectations for Boston?

Two weeks ago it was announced that Lance Armstrong is planning to run the Boston Marathon in April to raise money for his foundation. I thought this would be a good time for another post looking at Armstrong's marathon history.

It has been a while since my last post which looked at the results of the 2006 New York Marathon. That was the first marathon that Armstrong ran since his Tour de France victories. He finished the 2006 New York Marathon with a time of 2:59:36. He ran again last November (2007), and he made considerable improvement in his time with a finish of 2:46:43. It'll be interesting to see if he can continue this improvement in Boston.

Below are Armstrong's marathon race stats based on data from Marathonguide.com for the 2007 NYC Marathon and the 2006 NYC Marathon. I also included temperature stats from Weather Underground.

Date           Time    OverAll   Men    Men 35-39   Temp @ Sky
                       Place     Place  Place       9:00am
Nov 5, 2006   2:59:36      869     824        381    43°F  clear
Nov 4, 2007   2:46:43      233     214        108    48°F  scattered
                                                           clouds

Armstrong reduced almost 13 minutes off his 2006 time. A 2:46:43 time in 2006 would have put him in 261 place over all. The 2:59:36 time gave him 869 place in 2006. So you can see how much harder it is to take time off a sub-3 marathon. One thing I want to look into is how many other sub-3 runners were able to take 10 or more minutes off their times from the 2006 to 2007 marthon. In a previous post I looked at how much top runners were able to improve from the 2004 to the 2005 Boston Marathon. These 2006 and 2007 NYC Marathons should make for a better comparison since the temperatures in the two races were fairly close.

I'll also look into top marathon runners who have run both the New York and Boston Marathons. Have runners been able to improve their times at Boston? Perhaps this will give some insights into what we can expect from Armstrong.